Beyond Broadcast Notes: My “Birds of a Feather” Dinner

Beyond Broadcast organizers offered the option of several loosely structured “idea generating/networking” dinners last night for conference attendees. I “moderated” a discussion among six individuals, based generally on the following question: how do we get the best content from our listeners? Participants included Josh Andrews of Chicago Public Radio, Jessica Duda of the Center for Social Media, Todd Broadie of WYMS Milwaukee, and Rhod Sharp of BBC 5 Live. My notes are a bit random – trying to eat Indian food, converse, pass the naan, and drink one’s mango lassi can have a detrimental effect on note-taking. So can an interesting group because you spend most of the time thinking, listening and talking.

Josh spoke about Chicago Public Radio’s plan to launch a second service next year. The service will be targeted to a new, younger demographic that doesn’t regularly listen to public radio now – a more web-savvy, non-traditional radio listener. Josh described the radio station as an outgrowth of the web site, rather than the other way around, and their plans to make user-generated content one of the centerpieces of the service – content modules that might include essays, discussions, and live or recorded music.

Todd Broadie is a part of the upcoming WYMS launch. The station plans to be heavily music-oriented, aimed at a younger demographic that doesn’t regularly listen to public radio now. Todd described their plans to insert user-generated content into the mix, with short-form news features, as well.

And Rhod Sharp of BBC 5 Live talked about the overnight show he hosts on 5 Live, BBC Radio’s News/Talk/Sports format; he and the show’s producers encourage listeners to submit podcasts, and they use portions of those podcasts on the show.

Our group felt that getting the best possible content from our audience will require:

• Encouraging, training, critiquing and commissioning them. This is a level of engagement, perhaps, that many of us haven’t fully factored into our calculations of the monetary and staff costs of such an initiative. But it’s clearly on the minds of Josh, Todd B., and Rhod, who described plans to offering training on storytelling, gathering natural sound, conducting interviews, and finding good equipment.
• Nudging your citizen content producers out of their bedrooms and dens and into the real world. That’s how they get to the issues in their community that are important and how they find other voices that can add to their stories.
• An extensive filtering system to find, fact-check, and rate all this content. Josh and his colleagues at Chicago Public Radio will have to mine existing content libraries like PRX, as well as process the stories filed by citizen producers, and the material generated by the station’s planned outreach into the community (ex. the StoryCorps booth concept). Everyone agreed that this is going to be very important to ensure an expected level of quality, although Rhod brought an interesting counterpoint to the discussion from his BBC perspective: NPR strives for a standard of perfection in audio production that’s unrealistic in this new kind of audience interaction. For instance, some engineers may reject mp3 audio for broadcast, but those standards will have to be reconsidered.

Should we pay them? Everyone rejected the idea of a general payment system, but thought that payment could be a part of commissioning work from citizen journalists. Rhod says the BBC constantly “trolls” for content, looking for people writing good blogs or making great podcasts and commissioning content from them.

Josh expressed a concern that others seemed to share: the “MySpace generation” doesn’t see public radio as a creative outlet; they can take their work elsewhere.